“Eh sabi ng referensya, yung 1876 Spanish Constition which makes Catholicism as state religion, was never extended in the Philippines. Nangangahulugan eto na hindi rin extended sa Pilipinas yung rule na Catholicism ang state religion. So base na rin sa argumento mo, lalabas na merong separation of church and state sa Pilipinas sapagkat walang state religion sa Pilipinas.” (FRANZ LUIGI LUGENA-Facebook Comment)
This ridiculous assertion came after he had failed to support his other ridiculous definition of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. According to LUGENA,
"Ang separation of church and state eh hindi lang nakatali sa prohibition ng pagtatayo ng state religion. Yung exclusivity at distinction sa duties ng gobyerno at simbahan ay isang porma ng separation of church and state. The fact na ang gobyerno eh walang kapangyarihang magsagawa ng misa at mag administer ng mga sakramento, at ang simbahan na magpasa at magpatupad ng secular laws at mag appriate ng pondo ng gobyerno ay nagpapakita na merong separation between church and state.” (FRANZ LUIGI LUGENA- Facebook comment)
When challenged to apply his stupid definition of concept of Separation of Church and State to countries with union of church and state, he had no choice but to deny that Roman Catholic was not the state religion of Philippines during Spanish times. LUGENA also avoided answering the question whether Spain itself had separation of church and state based on his street-heard definition.
STATE RELIGION
Does being a state religion anchor solely on Constitution? Definitely NOT. More often than not, the constitution only put in writing the previous and existing ruling state policies. In the case of Spanish Constitution of 1876 declaring the ROMAN CATHOLIC as the STATE RELIGION OF SPAIN, this constitution only reiterated the agreements between the POPE and the Queen of Spain. The immediate preceding CONCORDAT in 1851 agreement between the Catholic as a religion and Spain as a state specified that “the Roman Catholic religion was to continue, to the exclusion of every other, to be the only religion of the Spanish nation, and was to be maintained, so far as his Catholic majesty has the power, "in all the rights and prerogatives which it should enjoy according to the law of God and canonical sanction.”
Although the Spanish Constitution of 1876 was not extended to the colonies including the Philippines, the CONCORDAT agreement served as the legal basis of the union of church and state in all its colonial affairs.
Joaquin Bernas, in his essay, DID NOT say that Catholicsm was NOT the state religion. He said that Catholic Church was the established church or the official church on the basis of state protection under the Penal code of 1884 which was in effect in the Philippines. By definition, a state religion is the official and established religion.
The terms of the CONCORDAT of 1851 were really in effect in the Philippines. Reviewing the terms in this agreement between the POPE and the Queen of Spain, one may surely understand why Joaquin Bernas did not discuss this CONCORDAT because of possible complication of exposing the dark realities inside the Catholicism.
CONCORDAT of 1851
There were previous CONCORDATS between Spain and Vatican before 1851. According to Catholic encyclopedia, “the first was dated 13 May, 1418, between Martin V and John II of Castile. The second, between Philip V and Innocent XIII, may be regarded as the forerunner of the agreement made 2 January, 1753, by Benedict XIV and Ferdinand VI, which remained the basis of the union of Church and State in Spain and her colonies until the death of Ferdinand VII in 1833. “ In the subsequent years in Puerto Rico, the state “despoiled the Church of much property and disbanded the only two communities of religious men, the Dominicans and Franciscans, appropriating to the State their convents and properties.” To resolve this conflict, a new CONCORDAT was concluded by the Spain and the Pope in 1851. The Concordat highlighted the greed of the Catholicism.
TERMS of CONCORDAT of 1851
1. Roman Catholic as state religion of Spanish nation.
This is not in consonance to Rizal' statement:
“No one has a monopoly of the true God, nor is there a nation or religion that can claim, or at any rate prove, that it has been given the exclusive right to the Creator or sole knowledge of His Being. “- RIZAL2. Conformance of education to Catholic doctrine.
Annotations to Morga's Sucesos de las Islas Filipinas - translated by Austin Craig
Rizal portrayed the Catholic Church defective policy on education in Chapter 27 of El Filibusterismo.
3. Rights of Clergy and religious orders for RESPECT and compensation from government.
“They say that prudence is sanctity. But, what sanctity have they shown us? To pray and kneel a lot, kiss the hand of the priests, throw money away on churches, and believe all the friar sees fit to tell us; gossip, callous rubbing of noses.”- RIZAL, To the young women of Malolos.4. Right of the church to acquire property
“Why, then, do the friars now refuse to stir a foot unless paid in advance? And, as if they were starving, they sell scapularies, rosaries, bits, and other things which are nothing but schemes for making money and detriment to the soul; because even if all the rags on earth were converted into scapularies and all the trees in the forest into rosaries, and if the skins of all the beasts were made into belts and if all the priests of the earth mumbled prayers over all this and sprinkled oceans of holy water over it, this would not purify a rogue or condone sin where there is no repentance. Thus, also, through cupidity and love of money, they will, for a price, revoke the numerous prohibitions such as those against eating meat, marrying close relatives, etc. you can do almost anything if you but grease their palms. Why that? Can God be bribed and bought off, and blinded by money, nothing more nor less than a friar”-RIZAL, To the young women of Malolos.
In El Filibusterismo novel, Kabesang Tales lost his land property to greedy Friars.
LUGENA ALIBI
LUGENA insisted with his idiot definition of Separation of Church and State by challenging:
“Kung totoo yang claim mo na walang separation of church and state nung panahon ng Spanish Occupation, dapat sana may mga pari na nagpapalakad ng gobyerno at may mga guadia sibil na nagmimisa.” (LUGENA-Facebook comment)
Accepting his idiotic challenge, there was indeed a time when an archbishop of Manila, Manuel Rojo was appointed as the Governor-General of the Philippines in 1759 during the British Occupation of Manila.
LUGENA replied:
“Ilitaw mo rin na may guardia sibil na nagmimisa. Part yun ng hamon ko sayo. Kung totoo yang haka mo na walang separation of church and state nun, dapat homogenous ang simbahan at estado. Priests do the job of government officials and vice versa. Kaya ilitaw mo rin na merong mga government officials na nagmimisa." -(LUGENA, Facebook comment)
Continuing to accept his idiotic challenge, there are CHAPLAINS assigned in military. These CHAPLAINS are government officials doing the religious functions.
LUGENA further asserted his alibi:
“Military chaplains are priests. Maliwanag yan sa Canon 564. They are capable of celebrating mass because of the fact that they were ordained, not because the state granted them the power/authority to celebrate the mass. Even so, you have yet to show us an instance during the Spanish colonial period that members of the guardia civil can celebrate masses. The fact that until now you failed to show any evidence means that there is simply none. Celebrating masses are exclusive for ordained priests of the church. [Canon 900, par.1] The exclusivity of this duty of the church testifies to the existence of separation of church and state. “ (LUGENA- Facebook Comment)
It is wrong to say that military chaplains are priest because even lay person can be a chaplain. It is irrelevant if a chaplain is a priest or not. The point is a chaplain is a government official being paid by the government to do religious functions.
So, LUGENA insisted that there should be a “guardia sibil” not just any government officials, that can celebrate mass to prove otherwise that there was a separation of church and state.
Since it is very difficult to find this absurd proof, the challenge was returned to LUGENA to prove his definition by showing “guardia sibil” celebrating mass in countries where there is an union of church and state such as SPAIN and VATICAN.
LUGENA avoided to answer the question whether Spain had separation of Church and State because he knew that his definition will not match. It is indeed absurd to let Guardia Sibil to celebrate mass. In the case of Vatican, where there is an obvious union of church and state, are the swiss guards authorized to celebrate Mass? LUGENA replied:
“Dahil yung swiss guard eh under ng Pontifical Commission for Vatican State na pinamumunuan ng mga pari. Kung kaya yung political at religious functions ay parehong ginagawa ng simbahan sa Vatican” (LUGENA-Facebook comment)
Therefore, LUGENA is very stupid to ask for additional proof for “guardia sibil” celebrating mass because the mere fact that Manuel Rojo, an archbishop who can celebrate mass was also appointed as Governor-General of the Philippines of which he has direct control of all guardia sibil.
THIS SHOWS THE STUPIDITY OF CATHOLIC DEFENDERS WHO NEVER USE REASON NOR TEST THEIR REASONING IF VALID OR NOT.